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Defending the TRUE Godhead
Exposing Satan's Greatest Deception on God's Remnant Church


Was Jesus Co-eternal as Trinitarians Teach?
Chapter 27

There are two ways to be fooled.
One is to believe what isn’t true.
The other is to refuse to believe what is true.

Søren Kierkegaard – Danish philosopher,
theologian and poet.


Was Jesus Co-eternal as Trinitarians Teach?
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Trinitarians say that Jesus is co-eternal with the Father, meaning He and the Father have always been, neither coming before or after the other, which of course would mean that there is no true Father-Son relationship, just a metaphorical situation for which they by choice are role-playing.

The following Spirit of Prophecy quotes are taken from the book, “The Trinity,” by Woodrow Whidden, Jerry Moon and John W. Reeve, originally published in 2002, which many Trinitarians and leaders use as a resource book to support their position. The below quotes are listed in order as they appear on pages 224 and 225 under the heading “The Eternal Preexistence of Christ.”

“The Word existed as a divine being, even as the eternal Son of God, in union and oneness with his Father. From everlasting he was the Mediator of the covenant, the one in whom all nations of the earth, both Jews and Gentiles, if they accepted him, were to be blessed. "The Word was with God, and the Word was God." Before men or angels were created, the Word was with God, and was God.” {RH, April 5, 1906 par. 5}

“The words spoken in regard to this are so decisive that no one need be left in doubt. Christ was God essentially, and in the highest sense. He was with God from all eternity, God over all, blessed forevermore.” {RH, April 5, 1906 par. 6}

“The Lord Jesus Christ, the divine Son of God, existed from eternity, a distinct person, yet one with the Father. … This was no robbery of God.” {RH, April 5, 1906 par. 7}

“There are light and glory in the truth that Christ was one with the Father before the foundation of the world was laid. This is the light shining in a dark place, making it resplendent with divine, original glory.” {RH, April 5, 1906 par. 8}

“Christ is the pre-existent, self-existent Son of God.” {ST, August 29, 1900 par. 13}

“In speaking of His pre-existence, Christ carries the mind back through dateless ages. He assures us that there never was a time when He was not in close fellowship with the eternal God.” {ST, August 29, 1900 par. 15}

"Here Christ shows them that, altho they might reckon His life to be less than fifty years, yet His divine life could not be reckoned by human computation. The existence of Christ before His incarnation is not measured by figures.” {ST, May 3, 1899 par. 4}

“From the days of eternity the Lord Jesus Christ was one with the Father; He was "the image of God," the image of His greatness and majesty, "the outshining of His glory." {DA 19.1}

“In it [God’s Word] we may learn what our redemption has cost Him who from the beginning was equal with the Father, and who sacrificed His life that a people might stand before Him redeemed from everything earthly, renewed in the image of God.” {CT 13.2}

RESPONSE: On the surface all the quotes seem to support their theory that Christ is as eternal as the Father. But the final quote is the proof that clears up the apparent mystery. We know that according to John 3:16 that Jesus was begotten. John 3:17 tells us that God sent His Son into this world; therefore He had to have a Son to send.

It was so far back in eternity that Christ was begotten and His personality had its beginning of days, that to a finite mind it would seem as all eternity. Now let’s look at that final quote again: “In it [God’s Word] we may learn what our redemption has cost Him who from the beginning was equal with the Father, …” The Father is indeed without a beginning, however when Christ was begotten, it was from that beginning that He was with the Father and was equal with the Father, and that there never was a time since His beginning, that He was not with the Father.

Jesus told His disciples about His beginning in John 16:27 “For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God.” and then reinforced it by saying this in the following verse 28, “I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.” Additionally in His prayer to His Father Christ told the Father that the disciples understood that He was the begotten Son of God when He said this in John 16:8 “For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received [them], and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.”

Most people miss what is said in John 1:1 & 2. “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God.” Again, since the Father had no beginning, the beginning spoken of here is that point in eternity when Jesus was begotten and had beginning of days. He was with the Father and He was in the express image of the Father.

Sister White was aware of the published quotes of the pioneers and she never challenged the following quotations because it is what she believed also and God never told her they were wrong:

E.J. WAGGONNER - "As the Son of the self-existent God, he has by nature all the attributes of Deity. It is true that there are many sons of God; but Christ is the 'only begotten Son of God,' and therefore the Son of God in a sense in which no other being ever was, or ever can be. The angels are sons of God, as was Adam (Job 38:7; Luke 3:38), by creation; Christians are the sons of God by adoption (Rom. 8:14, 15); but Christ is the Son of God by birth." ibid. p. 12. "All things proceed ultimately from God, the Father; even Christ Himself proceeded and came forth from the Father..." Christ and His Righteousness, 1890, p. 19.
“There was a time when Christ proceeded forth and came from God, from the bosom of the Father (John 8:42; 1:18), but that time was so far back in the days of eternity that to finite comprehension it is practically without beginning." Christ and His Righteousness, 1890, p. 22.

W.W. PRESCOTT - "As Christ was twice born, once in eternity, the only begotten of the Father, and again here in the flesh, thus uniting the divine with the human in that second birth, so we, who have been born once already in the flesh, are to have the second birth, being born again of the Spirit, in order that our experience may be the same, the human and the divine being joined in a life union." Review and Herald, April 14, 1896 p. 232.

A.T. JONES - "He was born of the Holy Ghost. In other words, Jesus Christ was born again. He came from heaven, God's first- born, to the earth, and was born again, But all in Christ's work goes by opposites for us: he, the sinless one, was made to be sin, in order that we might be made the righteousness of God in him. He, the living one, the prince and author of life, died that we might live. He whose goings forth have been from the days of eternity, the first-born of God, was born again, in order that we might be born again." Review and Herald, Aug. 1, 1899 (Lessons on Faith p. 154.)

There are many more and I encourage you to read Chapter 26 – “The Shaking, What it Means and the Cause” where you will find many pioneers quotes expressing what they believed about the Father, about Jesus and about the Holy Spirit.

PLEASE NOTE – Here is PROOF with unquestionable authority that Jesus was God’s dear Son while Lucifer was still and exalted angel in heaven. Although Trinitarians like to believe that Jesus never became the Son of God until Bethlehem, God had Ellen White write the words found in Story of Redemption showing that Jesus was already the Son of God, long before Bethlehem, before the creation of the earth and man, and before the rebellion of the angel Lucifer. In fact, in the first two paragraphs of the account, Jesus is referred to as the Son 10 times. God knew that there would one day be dispute as to when Jesus became the Son of God.

Lucifer in heaven, before his rebellion, was a high and exalted angel, next in honor to God's dear Son. His countenance, like those of the other angels, was mild and expressive of happiness. His forehead was high and broad, showing a powerful intellect. His form was perfect; his bearing noble and majestic. A special light beamed in his countenance and shone around him brighter and more beautiful than around the other angels; yet Christ, God's dear Son, had the pre-eminence over all the angelic host. He was one with the Father before the angels were created. Lucifer was envious of Christ, and gradually assumed command which devolved on Christ alone. {SR 13.1}

The great Creator assembled the heavenly host, that He might in the presence of all the angels confer special honor upon His Son. The Son was seated on the throne with the Father, and the heavenly throng of holy angels was gathered around them. The Father then made known that it was ordained by Himself that Christ, His Son, should be equal with Himself; so that wherever was the presence of His Son, it was as His own presence. The word of the Son was to be obeyed as readily as the word of the Father. His Son He had invested with authority to command the heavenly host. Especially was His Son to work in union with Himself in the anticipated creation of the earth and every living thing that should exist upon the earth. His Son would carry out His will and His purposes but would do nothing of Himself alone. The Father's will would be fulfilled in Him. {SR 13.2}

Lucifer was envious and jealous of Jesus Christ. Yet when all the angels bowed to Jesus to acknowledge His supremacy and high authority and rightful rule, he bowed with them; but his heart was filled with envy and hatred. … Why should Christ thus be honored before himself? {SR 14.1}

PLEASE NOTE – Here is the cause of the rebellion, envy, jealousy and a heart filled with hatred. He was never able to recover once these emotions were begun. The final straw came when God called a meeting of all the angel hosts to make a declaration.

There was contention among the angels. Lucifer and his sympathizers were striving to reform the government of God. They were discontented and unhappy because they could not look into His unsearchable wisdom and ascertain His purposes in exalting His Son, and endowing Him with such unlimited power and command. They rebelled against the authority of the Son. {SR 15.1}

Angels that were loyal and true sought to reconcile this mighty, rebellious angel to the will of his Creator. They justified the act of God in conferring honor upon Christ, and with forcible reasoning sought to convince Lucifer that no less honor was his now than before the Father had proclaimed the honor which He had conferred upon His Son. They clearly set forth that Christ was the Son of God, existing with Him before the angels were created; and that He had ever stood at the right hand of God, and His mild, loving authority had not heretofore been questioned; and that He had given no commands but what it was joy for the heavenly host to execute. {SR 15.2}

PLEASE NOTE – Lucifer became Satan (the adversary) while in heaven. He had one-half of all the angels stirred up and siding with the rebel, however loyal angels were able to convince many to return to serving God. Ultimately there was war in heaven and one third of all the angels were removed from heaven along with their chosen commander. The important thing to remember is that God has given us proof in these writings that Jesus was indeed the begotten Son of God at some point back in eternity, before the creation of the angels and Lucifer.

Today, Satan is truly making war with the remnant as it is his goal that all will share his fate. The Trinity theory is a dangerous doctrine as all who embrace it are breaking the first commandment.

A SPECIAL RECOMMENDATION - I strongly encourage you to watch the video on Chapter 24 – “The Seal of God and the Mark of the Beast,” The Correct View by Nader Mansour. Most Adventists think they know what they need to know on the subject, to the pleasure of the great deceiver; but this video will show you what you don’t know, but must know, as we enter the final days. I was so impressed with this message and the content that I produced a PowerPoint with script, in either word.doc or pdf, and is located on the same page following the video. All can be downloaded and presented to your people. Permission to copy is granted.



In His service, Richard C. Vaughn